Scientism to Scripture
Trevor was deep in the trenches of science—cellular biology, bioinformatics, a PhD in aging research, chasing longevity and the promises of the Human Genome Project. He bought the materialist worldview hook, line, and sinker.
Until he didn’t.
What started as intellectual disappointment in grand theories of consciousness led him through quantum physics, information theory, and eventually back to the Gospels in the Bible he once dismissed. Along the way: father wounds that shaped atheism, the surprising consistency of the Christian story, and a growing sense that the universe is far more alive than he’d been taught.
This week we’re doing a crossover episode with the host of the God’s Eye View podcast to talk about leaving dogmatic scientism, why so many prominent atheists share similar childhood scars, how ghosts are hard to categorize, and what, if anything, UFOs and non-human intelligences might have to do with scripture.
They also explore discernment, sacredness versus inerrancy, and why “love your enemy” really is the most radical idea in history.
Highlights:
A decade-long decline from scientism
“science will fix everything”
Physical therapist, bioinformatics PhD, professorship
Trevor’s growing disillusionment with materialist grand theories of consciousness
Quantum mechanics, information theory, and physicists trying really hard not to talk about God
Hoping the Gospels are true
The correlation between father wounds and atheism
Patriarchy, healthy authority, and the revelations of fatherhood (we both have an 8 year old and a 4 year old
What are ghosts?
Anti-reductionism
UFOs/aliens: semantic slipperiness and possible biblical framework (angels, Nephilim, sons of God, ascending/descending beings)
NHIs have been communicating with humans throughout history — what does this say about sacred texts?
The false dichotomy that undermined 20th Century Mormonism
You can’t get away from the need for personal discernment
Sacredness and inerrancy aren’t the same thing
That time Kelly Chase said “Love your enemy” is the most supernatural statement in history
A summary of Mormon cosmology
The only right way to judge a person’s faith
Why theological debate is boring
With skeptical hope,
Jordan & Trevor (& Mal)












