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Contact as Initiation with Meredith Spearman

Plus: The connection between trauma and the numinous

This week we’re joined by Meredith Spearman MSN, RN, the writer behind The Maze to Metanoia. She takes us back to the night she was eight, speaking to the universe outside her bedroom window from inside a troubled home, when a rectangle seemed to cut itself out of the sky, followed by thirty years of disaster dreams, and why she thinks they stopped. Meredith believes contact is initiation, and she explains what that means. We also talk about why strange entities seem to lie so often, and how to harness the power of discernment.

Shownotes

  • A rectangle in the sky

  • Speaking to the universe from an abusive house

  • Her brother was dreaming the same thing

  • Dreaming about natural disasters

  • “We can’t save the people we love — only love them”

  • Contact experience as initiation

  • The phenomenon as a mirror (Jung’s shadow work)

  • Trauma and the doorway to the anomalous

  • The problem with the term “ontological shock,” and why it might be a public-health failure

  • A metaphor about natural springs and modernity

  • What people often see at the threshold of death

  • Time (still) isn’t real

  • Why the phenomenon lies

  • “Look into the abyss, the abyss looks back”

  • Stay uncertain, but also remember to touch grass

And in the epilogue…

  • How “aliens” helped Meredith avoid her alcoholic family

  • Disclosure is a psyop

  • Demons?

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Jordan & Meredith (& Mal, who was out touching grass)

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